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17 April 2012 @ 11:51 pm
Picture Speculation !  

Hello ! This is my first time posting here and I know that my english isn't really good, so be indulgent please !
I was re-reading chapter 55 and wondering about the front picture... I want your opinions ! Symbole time !

So, first I find it really beautiful (useless but always good to say), and find it really confusing too ! Maybe am I just stupid.
So we can see Break, standing in a cage, with his hand on his chest (on his heart I think) and with a white rose who winds (?) on the metal. Does the rose symbolize Reim ? Because he's in a way the "innocent" character (white rose), he was really close to Break (really, really, really, really close, so...okay I shut my mouth. XD)(so the rose is on his heart), young (the young flower) and he's well... dead (the petal who fall off). Or am I wrong ? And so Break is the only one standing up in the cage, with Gilbert free outside. Does that symbolize thet fact that he's alone, prisonner of his sorrow ?

And since I'm re-reading the chapter (better for you, if you're interested, to read it again), I'm having a few more questions. In the frst page, there is a flash-back of Break, telling the young Gilbert to remember his priorities, if there is someone that he wants to protect etc. This is obviously for the transition with Gil's POV, but I'm wondering if it isn't also a reminder of Break's relationship with Reim... Because he's obviously (surprisingly for him ?) angry about his death.

And a last one, that really DISTURBS me. In this chapter, from page 29 to 31, Break apologies to Reim : "Sorry Reim, looks like I failed once again... but at least I'll get rid of the two of them !", to the Will of the Abyss : "I couldn't grant your wish either, forgive me" and finally says this : "Well... I don't really care.. either way."

I say... WHAT ? >___<''

So... I can understand that Break doesn't care anymore of the wish of the Will, since he's going to die in the chapter (remember his suicidal thoughts)(so romantic !!! dying after his revenge ! *shot*), but why is he saying "either way" ??? He's extremely angry about Reim's death (we just have to see his reactions in this chapter and in the previous one), so why does he says something like "You're dead, I coulnd't save you, but I don't care." ? Am I misunderstanding the meaning of this "either way" ? Is it the translation ? My unperfect english ? Because I personnaly understand the "Sorry Reim, looks like I failed once again..." as an apologies for not have been able the save him, or for a promise that they've made together (others details made me thinks that but that's not the point.).

So... now I've talked, my grammar is probably horrible, but I want to know your opinions

Cassie Drey | Kashii Ai | カシイ アイkashii_ai on April 17th, 2012 10:19 pm (UTC)
Hmmm. Well, as for the white rose, in Pandora Hearts, it actually symbolizes unbridled chaos, secrecy, and childish insanity. So I don't know whether or not that actually represents Reim. It seems more likely to me that it symbolizes either the Will of the Abyss, the promise Break made to her, or perhaps his own insanity/the secrets he keeps.
saki_zwingli2saki_zwingli2 on April 17th, 2012 10:27 pm (UTC)
Oh, I didn't saw things like that but it sounds logic ! The cage would so represents the secrets, and the rose the Will of the Abyss. But I wonder if there isn't a double meaning, since in those chapters, the Will is not really present. In this one she's just in one page. And we all know that Mochuzuki likes yaoi (...) and puts slight symboles sometimes. It seems to me that Reim and Break's hypothetical relationship is highly pictured in this chapter (with Break reaction) and the famous "I'm glad you're alive" in the next one, so...
But one more time, maybe it's just my fangirl's mind who is creating things... --' shame on me.
cool_inuyasha_gcool_inuyasha_g on April 18th, 2012 04:02 am (UTC)
You guys should check http://lilyginnyblack.tumblr.com/post/19331126936/pandora-hearts-master-post-1-characters-chains-key. She does a lot of speculation on Pandora Hearts symbolism and its quite well developed. As for me, due to the reoccurring motif of the roses, I agree with LilyGinny on both the cage and white rose. When Break said either way I'm pretty sure he meant it not in relation to both incidents Reim and the Abyss but just to the Will of the Abyss. I think it was in the sort of a way like if I wanted ice cream, I don't really care either way of I got strawberry or chocolate ice cream, I just want ice cream. Maybe because he's given himself to death, maybe because he had more important things to worry about, maybe because he cared more about Reim than her wise or maybe because he was trying to act cool, regardless at that point in time, whether he could or couldn't grand her wish, he didn't care either way.
ceiteanceitean on April 18th, 2012 04:56 am (UTC)
He might be grabbing at his seal, actually, instead of his heart.
saki_zwingli2saki_zwingli2 on April 18th, 2012 10:02 am (UTC)
Both are likely to me. ^^
saki_zwingli2saki_zwingli2 on April 18th, 2012 10:01 am (UTC)
Wow, thank you ! Your link is very interesting ! And now I understand those pages much better ! (well... in fact the idea with the ice cream was more obvious for me than Break's thoughts ! XD).